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Date de publication 2020-07-13 19:22:41 (vue: 2020-07-14 00:14:03)
Titre In defense of open debate
Texte Recently, Harper's published a Letter on Justice and Open Debate. It's a rather boring defense of liberalism and the norm of tolerating differing points of view. Mike Masnick wrote rebuttal on Techdirt. In this post, I'm going to rebut his rebuttal, writing a counter-counter-argument.The Letter said that the norms of liberalism tolerate disagreement, and that these norms are under attack by increasing illiberalism on both sides, both the left and the right.My point is this: Masnick avoids the rebutting the letter. He's recycling his arguments against right-wingers who want their speech coddled, rather than the addressing the concerns of (mostly) left-wingers worried about the fanaticism on their own side.Free speechMasnick mentions "free speech" 19 times in his rebuttal -- but the term does not appear in the Harper's letter, not even once. This demonstrates my thesis that his rebuttal misses the point.The term "free speech" has lost its meaning. It's no longer useful for such conversations.Left-wingers want media sites like Facebook, YouTube, the New York Times to remove "bad" speech, like right-wing "misinformation". But, as we've been taught, censoring speech is bad. Therefore, "censoring free speech" has to be redefined to as to not include the above effort.The redefinition claims that the term "free speech" now applies to governments, but not private organizations, that stopping free speech happens only when state power or the courts are involved. In other words, "free speech" is supposed to equate with the "First Amendment", which really does only apply to government ("Congress shall pass no law abridging free speech").That this is false is demonstrated by things like the murders of Charlie Hebdo cartoonist for depicting Muhammad. We all agree this incident is a "free speech" issue, but no government was involved.Right-wingers agree to this new definition, sort of. In much the same way that left-wingers want to narrow "free-speech" to only mean the First Amendment, right-wingers want to expand the "First Amendment" to mean protecting protecting "free speech" against interference by both government and private platforms. They argue that platforms like Facebook have become so pervasive that they have become the "public square", and thus, occupy the same space as government. They therefore want regulations that coddle their speech, preventing their content from being removed.The term "free speech" is therefore no longer useful in explaining the argument because it has become the argument.The Letter avoids this play on words. It's not talking about "free speech", but the "norms of open debate and toleration of differences". It claims first of all that we have a liberal tradition where we tolerate differences of opinion and that we debate these opinions openly. It claims secondly that these norms are weakening, claiming "intolerant climate that has set in on all sides".In other words, those who attacked the NYTimes for publishing the Tom Cotton op-ed are criticized as demonstrating illiberalism and intolerance. This has nothing to do with whatever arguments you have about "free speech".Private platformsMasnick's free speech argument continues that you can't force speech upon private platforms like the New York Times. They have the freedom to make their own editorial decisions about what to publish, choosing some things, rejecting others.It's a good argument, but one the targets the arguments made by right-wingers hostile to the New York Times, and not arguments made by th
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